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This pup is Australia's own breed, part dingo, part kelpie, a great bush working dog. **************************************************************************************** First Family Member Details Surname: NASH Given Name(s): William Occupation(s): private.Marines Birth Details Birth Country: England. Immigration Details .Australia. Ship/ Prince of Wales. Year Arrived: 1788 Surname: HAYNES Given Name(s): Maria Birth Details Birth Country: England Birth Date: 1770 Death Details Death Town: Castlereagh Death State/Territory: N.S.W. Death Country: Australia Death Date: 1844 ................................................. Immigration Details .Australia. First Fleet. Ship/ Prince of Wales. Year Arrived: 1788 Family Stories Life in Australia: William Nash. & Maria. Haynes. Were on the First Fleet.Arriving on board the Prince of Wales 1788.William was a Private 58th.Plymouth.Marines. Maria On her arrival was listed as being married to William.Nash. They were not officially married until 13th.Feb.1789.(no. 57 on Church register) .........Although in other records this is not correct............. In the book FIRST FLEET FAMILIES. OF AUSTRALIA. AUTHOR.C.J.SMEE. Maria was listed as being married to Private Luke Haynes. who arrived on the 1st Fleet. Scarborough. He died 27.3.1798. Sydney Cove. (Hanged.)Maria & William went to Norfolk Island 4.3.1790. It is reported that their 1st. child. William. Baptised 25.5.1788. May have been the 1st white Child born on the Colony. He died 19.6.1788.It is reported that Maria in 1802. was living with 2 children at the rented farm of Robert Guy. (Scarborough.1790.) at Concord. You and Your Family: In June 1803. William attempted to recover Maria from Guy through the court.It failed partly because he had not taken action on a previous order.He may have gained custody of at least 2 of the children (probably Mary & William & perhaps John.)but they remained in N.S.W.When he advertised on 29.4.1804. that he was leaving the colony.Maria was reported dead.13.11.1844.aged 74.& was buried at Castlereagh. N.S.W. Some reports will have William still in Australia & re Married....Some have William & John going to England & dying in the Battle of Waterloo..... Life Before Australia: William Nash, private marines 58th.(Plymouth.)Company. had served in 1784-86. on the Plymouth guardship Bombay Castle. Before the 1st Fleet sailed from Plymouth he received 150 of 200 lashes on 3.5.1787. for "unsoldier like behaviour.There was a Maria Haynes sentenced to 7 years (The Old Bailey.)But it has been reported this is not the above Maria Haynes.FOR MORE INFO SEARCH...OAKLEY.(Samantha.) The Williams Family. The story of John Williams married Sarah Nash. can be found at. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~yonkers/index.html (discontinued .Try Monaro Pioneers) This is all I am able to enter as this file is in the Government Arcives from 31.12.2001. There may be the odd mistake for which I apologize, but can't change. FAYE SEUREN. P.O. BOX. 37. FISH CREEK. COMMENT>>>GREAT EFFORT FAYE! Do you have an email address or a website? I'll put in a link to you.(Ric Williams) http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/australian/painting/education_kit/index.html http://www.janesoceania.com/australia_bush_tales/index.htm Bush Tales.............................................................. I don't know if I'm in the Williams/Nash family or not. I asked me mum one time and she said "I forgot to ask your father who he was, because he was in a hurry, it was dark and he had his hat on. "Gimme a beer, mate. I'm famished. I just walked across Gibson's desert looking for a couple of camels which slipped their hobbles and took off for the saltbush country back o' Bourke.", "Sorry Chips, you've come to the wrong place. This is the pub with no beer."

Pub with No Beer http://alldownunder.com/oz-u/songs/pub-with-no-beer-20.htm

Chips was a great boozer. All lit up one evening in Melbourne, he went into what he thought was a posh hotel and asked for a beer. The staid lady behind the desk said "This is not a pub, my man. This is the Y.W.C.A ,where we save girls." "Strewth" said Chips, "I'm too drunk tonight. Save me one for tomorrow night." *************************************************************************** *by Ric

We have this cousin called Dave. Well Dad said one time “Dave, you’re a grown man now and can take care of yourself when you go into town, so I am sending you down to Sydney to order a new windmill for our selection.”

Dave had never been to the city before but he had had a few trips into Boggabri township and except for getting into the wrong room at the boarding house and into the wrong bed with the landlady’s daughter and nearly having to marry her, nothing went wrong .

Of course there was the time he was caught playing two-up with some of the town lads and ended up in the clink overnight and had to pay a five pound fine. Nothing else though.

So he went down to Sydney on the steam-train, with a billy of sweet cold tea, some bonzer damper and thick kangaroo-tail soup from Mum, to eat on the way. Mum didn’t trust that railway refreshment-room tucker and wanted Dave to arrive in the big smoke without having to run to the lav every five minutes from the runs. “And keep away from Chinese Cafes, Davey” she warned “They cook cats and those under-cooked vegetables are no good for your digestion.. Mrs Bottomley found some fur on her plate one time, and it wasn’t rabbit.”

Dave booked into a hotel down near Central Station with a sign “Sydney’s Best Hostelry. We cater for Decent Country people. Ten shillings a Night for a Single Room. No visitors of the Opposite Sex and no spitting on the floor. Please Do not Wash your Socks in the Wash Basin..”

Dave was decent and he didn’t wear socks anyway and he would remember not to spit on the floor, so in he went.

It was getting late. The train trip had been long and he was tired. He had just settled down in bed, carefully placing his boots, bowyangs, strides and dentures on the chair, leaving on his underpants that Mum had made lovingly out of a Mother’s Choice flour sack, when there was a rattle on the door and a female voice called out “Are you there, dearie?”

Dave, nonplussed, opened the door a crack and there was a floozy-looking woman half-drunk, it seemed, smiling at him.

“I’m the maid service,” she said coyly and pushed her way in.

“Dave was inclined to stutter a bit when he was nervous and he was nervous now.

“I, I, don’t need no er maid er service.” Says Dave backing away.

“Well you got one . And I’m only going to cost you a quid” She was already sitting on the bed undoing her stockings.

She was gone in about an hour and Dave was one pound short from the seven pounds Dad had given him for the trip.

He felt guilty and his tiredness was gone. He decided to write Mabel a letter, but he wasn’t going to mention about what just happened. Instead he talked about the wonders of city life.

“You know Mabel,” he wrote with a pencil stub that needed sharpening, “they got all the mod cons here. They even got a dunny in this here hotel room. After you do your business, you pull a chain and a lot of good fresh water fills up and you can wash your hands and face real good. Remember to check on that cow that has the sore udder. See you soon”

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I met an old bushie out Boggabri way, camped by the riverbank. He had a beaten-up pushbike and he carried his swag on it, with blackened billies containing potatoes, sugar, tea and flour.

A basket hung from the handlebars. In it sat a blue cattle dog pup. The bushie, who said his name was Harry Nash went down to the billabong and in a half hour caught a couple of fish using grasshoppers as bait and put them on his campfire to cook with the damper. He threw some bullock bones with meat on them to the pup which gnawed at them making little rasping noises. " If we had some beers " he said to me "we could yarn all day mate, but I got to get moving again soon. Heard there was work up at the Pengilly station and they got good tucker there and pay you well." "I'm driving the landrover over past there. Do you want a lift? The bike could fit in the back easily." "Naw, mate" he replied,"the pup don't like cars and anyway travellin' would be too easy if I got a ride all the time. And I'd get there too soon." He grinned, showing a gap in his teeth. "Heh, Harry." I asked, "Do you know how far back that Nash name of yours goes?" "Well now, I think it's from the First Fleet. You know, 1788 and all that...." "Jesus Christ! I'm a bloody cousin of yours a few times removed...." "Yeah, you might be. We're thousands of us and we don't know each other, and we don't bloodywell want to know each other. So long mate. No, I don't want your money." I put the ten quid back in my pocket. That was about fifty years ago, I suppose. He was right. All the many descendants of William Nash and Maria seem to want to ignore one another, the rich and the poor, the successful, the strugglers, and most of us in between. *****************************************************************************

Grandfather Harry, when a young man drove cattle from Nimittabel right up to the Darling Downs, Queensland
William Nash came to Australia as a Marine with the First Fleet 1788 William and Mariah's first child, William, was baptised on Sunday 25th May 1788 A wedding was celebrated at St Phillip's, Sydney, on 13 February 1789, between William Nash, a marine, and Maria Haynes, a convict, in the presence of Elizabeth Gratten and Samuel Barnes (Chaplain's clerk) Mariah Haynes is not listed in John Cobley's 'Crimes of the First Fleet Convicts' By 1803 William & Maria had separated, and she took the children with her. Maria later became associated with two other men, Robert Guy and in 1816, with William Neale.
6 Children	1. William Nash born on 25 May 1788, buried on Friday 19th June 1789, a marine's child. 2. John Nash baptised 15 Jan 1792 (a family source names him William) 3. Mary Nash born 2 March 1793 and baptised 2 April 4. William Nash born 27 March 1795 and baptised 4 May 5. George Nash born 26 July 1797 6. Sarah Nash was born 16 Nov 1798
6. Sarah Nash 16 Nov 1798 wed on the 15th January 1814 at St John's, Parramatta, to John Williams (a convict), 13 children http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/community/hfhg/November2003.html

AUSTRALIA, a dry, thirsty country(and it's getting worse mate.)

It would come alive with water. This giant bucket excavator could cut a canal through the desert like slicing cheese. Not thousands of men digging by hand with pick and shovel like in the Panama Canal construction.... Wake up state and federal governments!

• Most of Australia is desert and semi-desert. Much of the remainder is marginal grazing, denuded from overstocking, while the water-table is dropping. Even artesian basins, hundreds of feet down are drying up.The future looks bleak for 75% of Australia.

It is true that this is the driest continent and fast getting drier, whether or not global warming is actually occurring as many scientists affirm, it is a dire matter of the whole continent drying up. Can there be a solution? About fifty years ago I was working at the top of a communications tower in Port Augusta, South Australia. Since the country was flat, I could look around in all directions. The view was spectacular.

After work I examined a map and saw that the land was low-lying all the way, hundreds of miles to the north, to mostly dry Lake Eyre, which used to be an inland sea.. It seemed to me then that it would be fairly straight forward to dig a canal joining the sea to Lake Eyre since much of the elevation was below sea level.. Back in Adelaide I visited several government departments asking why this could not be done. I got negative responses.

Since that time the Murray , which most of the population of South Australia and Western N.S.W. depend on for water, has a considerably diminished flow and has even become more saline. The situation is getting worse. In later years, I took a course in ecology and learned that increased cloud cover in a desert could cause more rain. If Lake Eyre was connected with Spenser’s Gulf by a canal, then the lake would become a sea again and there would be more evaporation, then clouds and then rain again more often.. Gradually the climate of central Australia would become milder. This and similar projects might save Australia, “the wide brown land, the land of sweeping plains, of drought and flooding rains. (The flooding rains don’t happen often.)

typical country town....kookaburras http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~aashmore/index.htm Nash(Williams) Family http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mould/monaro/index.htm Monaro Pioneers. http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/community/hfhg/November2003.html Hawksbury Historical assoc. http://members.ol.com.au/fffaus/who.htm Fellowship of First Fleeters.8SVr <a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"Outback country life was hard work, lonely, with discomfort and little pay. When later generations went to the city with comforts and diversions, some great part of our Australian pioneer psyche was lost. We look back with a yearning that forgets the aching long hours in the saddle and the flies and dust. We must honor our ancestors for the hardships they underwent, so that we are here today. A horse would get saddle-sores if you rode him too long or did not wash out the blanket under its saddle. It would get bot-fly eggs deposited on hair and it would need daily curry-combing and cutting off bot-fly eggs, or they would hatch and the maggots would eat under the animal's skin and eat along his flesh. Blowflies could hatch as maggots too, on the anus or a mare's vulva, particularly after foaling and this would make the horse hard to handle. Sheep and cattle had many ailments, too, from ticks to fly blown maggots and maggotty wool. They would crop the wrong fodder and get the runs or even die and there was nothing much could be done. It is hard on a man's buttocks being hours in the saddle. He develops venous piles and prickly heat, which inflames everywhere the dust, sweat and fungus spores proliferate. Mustering the run, branding the poddy calves, mending fences, shooting dingoes and running off the aborigines, was a thankless travail. If it had not been for the Abos, who learned to ride and do station work themselves, and the half-caste boundary riders and rousterbouts ( usually stolen from their tribal mothers at a very young age, by government agents,) Australian sheep and cattle stations could not have developed. Today, conditions are not much better, though Aborigines now have to be paid a low basic wage, whereas before, it was virtual slavery. For this they have to work long hours and often need buy supplies at the station store at inflated prices. When I was around in my youth, it was illegal for aborigines to have liquor supplied to them. You could get six months gaol for doing so. and pubs would not serve them. A couple of "boong" acquaintances asked me to buy a bottle of wine for them. They gave me the money (six shillings) and I bought a bottle of Purple Para. "Heh, Williams , is that for you? the publican asked?" Sure is. "I bluffed. I didn't see a trooper sitting in the corner having a schooner of beer. He must have noticed me, because he followed me outside and watched me go down to the river bank. I gave Sparrow the wine quickly. "Go for your bloody life!" I urged him and he was off. I ran like hell for a half mile along the track to where I had parked my 350 B.S.A. motorbike and roared away back to the cattle station, where I was to get up at five thirty the next morning to do a hard day mending fences. No white men could stand it year in year out, even though they got drunk at every opportunity to dull the loneliness and pain. That is why city jobs are a magnet for bush workers, because even lumping one hundred pounds of sugar loading trucks all day, is easier than working in the bush. " Sic 'em, Bluey!"

.................................................................................... <........ This flag was hated by early convicts, especially the Irish, as a symbol of oppression.....> Eureka Flag. early flag of rebellion (short-lived) but the rebels were racist, hating Orientals.

Who was the first child born to 'free' parents in NSW?

There is some conjecture about the first European birth on Australian soil, but William Nash seems to be the prime candidate. His father, also William, was a Marine Private and his mother was Maria Haynes, who came as his common-law wife (they were not married until later). There are biographical entries on both parents in 'The Founders of Australia: A Biographical Dictionary of the First Fleet, by Mollie Gillen, published in 1989 (pp. 261-262). The book also lists those who were born on the voyage. William Nash was baptised on 25 May 1788 (his actual birth date is not known), and died on 19 June 1789. A search of the NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages Historical Indexes will show that the Birth Registry number is "1A/1788", which indicates that his is the first entry in the register for 1788 (although not necessarily proving that his was the first birth). Digitised copies of his baptismal and death register entries can be purchased from the Registry. Governor Phillip's reports are published in 'The Historical Records of Australia' Series 1 Volume 1, but there is no mention of the first birth in the colony; on 12 February 1790 he simply states the number of births (59) and deaths (72) that had occurred to date. Unless further records are discovered, we will probably now never know definitely who was the "first born", but William Nash is the most likely. FIRST FLEET HMS PRINCE OF WALES - TRANSPORT, 340 TONS OFFICIALS MASON John Master YOURGINSON Yorgan Seaman HOSBORN Robert Seaman MOORE Samuel Seaman NELSON George Cook PORTER James Boy ALT-Augustus TH Surveyor TIMINS Thomas 1st Lt Marines SCOTT James Sgt Marines SCOTT June Wife SCOTT Elizabeth Child NASH William Pte Marines NASH Maria * Wife (Nee Haynes - Convict sentenced to 7 * years) WRIGHT Henry Pte Marines WRIGHT Ann Wife WRIGHT Mary Ann Child WHITTLE Thomas Dummer Marines WHITTLE Elizabeth Wife WHITTLE Thomas Child WHITTLE Infant CONVICTS ALLEN Susannah BALDWIN Ruth BINGHAM Elizabeth BONNER Jane DARNELL Margaret DUNDASS Jane FARMER Ann FLARTY Phebe GIBBS Susannah GROVES Mary HARRIS Mary HOLLOGIN Elizabeth IRVINE John - Assisted The Surgeon JOHNSON Mary LONG Mary MATHER Ann MONRO Letina PINDER Mary ROLT Mary SMITH Ann SPENCE Mary TAYLOR Sarah WARBURTON Ann WILLIAMS Francis YOUNGSON George CONVICTS AULT Sarah BEDDINGFIELD Marth BLANCHARD Susannah BOULTON Rebecca DIXON Mary ELLAM Deborah FIELD Jane FORBES Ann GREEN Mary HAYLOCK Caroline HERBERT Jane HUGHES Francis Ann JOHNSON Catherine KENNEDY Marth MARRIOTT Jane MITCHCRAFT Mary PARSLEY Ann REDCHESTER Ellen SCOTT Elizabeth SMITH Catherine TAURA Laura THOMAS Elizabeth WAINWRIGHT Ellen YOUNGSON Elizabeth 14 Jul 1788 'Borrowdale', 'Alexander', 'Friendship' and 'Prince of Wales' sail for England. Built at the Thames in 1786, the "Prince of Wales" operated in England until 1797 when her registration was transferred to Fort Royal, Martinique. Little is known about her after this.

Note that Maria Nash (Haynes) is listed as a convict with a seven- year sentence and at a later date she is listed as a "government servant" which presumably means convict.( Explain that, Kieran Williams and Carol Baxter.) There is also the persistant family story that William Nash applied to have Maria Haynes assigned to him as his servant but the request was denied, so he finally had to marry her, but even that marriage is suspect since Luke Haynes was not yet hung (If he was Maria's legal husband) so the "marriage" might have been bigamous by several months. Note also the marriage papers,( mentioned By Carol Baxter in her book "Nash First Fleeters and Founding Families") Maria that already had issued to her in England. (Marriage certificate? And if so, with whom?) Lots of unanswered questions there and it doesn't help to try to pretty-up the family history. We were hardly a respectable bunch, no matter how you try to rewrite history.

Symbols of Australia, Waratah, Kangaroo and Kookaburra. Where's the Wattle and the Emu?

WILLIAMS This distinguished family name can be traced as far back as the Domesday Book, with a Robert filius Willelmi recorded in 1086; Richard William lived in Oxfordshire in 1279, and a John Wylyam was recorded in the Subsidy Rolls in Sussex in 1296. Legend has it that the family Williams is descended from Brychan Brecheiniog who was Lord of Brecknock at the time of King Arthur. His seat was at Llangibby Castle in Monmouthshire. The ancient family name motto was "Cywir in Gwlad". Source: The Heritage Collection.John Williams came from Brecknock originally, according to the family bible of my grandfather Henry Inglis Williams, so it is very probable he was descended from the Lord William of Brecknock. . So we May be Minor Nobility! (RicWilliams) Prince of Wales Readers who want other views of the Nash/Williams family in Australia and before, go to "Nash/Williams Family First Fleeters" or even"Monaro Pioneers." They don't mention killing of blacks, racial admixture or dubious deeds of settlers. This website gives a lot of background. If you don't agree with any of the contents, or you want to add something, let me know. Ric Williams FIRST SIGHT OF BOTANY BAY Saturday 19th. This morng. I arose at 5 o'Clock in hopes of seeing Land, but was disappointed -- The Sirius & all the fleet made Sail abt. 4 o'Clock in the morng. & at 7 a.m. we discover'd Land abt. 40 miles distant. The joy everyone felt upon so long wish'd for an Event can be better conceiv'd than expressed, particularly as it was the termination of the Voyage to those who were to settle at Botany Bay, & : it is 10 weeks on monday since we left the Cape of Good Hope; the longest period of any we had been at Sea without touching at any Port. -- The Sailors are busy getting up the Cables & preparing all things for Anchor- ing - lye to all night. Sunday 20th. The Sirius made Sail at 4 o'Clock this morng. wt. a fine breeze go 4 Ks. -- Abt. 8 o'Clock we came abreast of point Solander & : Sail'd into the Arrive at Bay, where we were very happy to find the 4 Ships who had parted wt. Botany Bay us, all safe at Anchor. The Supply Brig got there on friday night, but the Alexr. Scarborough & Friendship reach'd it but the Eveng. before us! We saw by the Assistance of a Glass, 7 of the Natives, runing amongst the trees -- From Olde England we sailed to reach a far shore. We left for England's good, be it understood and thank God for it! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mould/monaro/index.htm The kangaroo and emu were the first native food besides oysters and fish that the first settlers ate. There are no aboriginal people on the coat of arms, because officially they had no legal right to the land they had inhabited for sixty thousand years. ..

Hello Ric, nice to hear from you again.

I found a marriage for Lucy Ann Pike and Henry I Williams in Braidwood in 1905, reg no 876.

A Lucy Ann Pike was born in Braidwood in 1883 reg no 13679 parents

Charles Pike and Harriet Ward Kemp.

Charles Pike and Harriet Ward Kemp were mar in Braidwood in 1867 reg no 1704.

Other children to Charles and Harriet were

Susannah born 1870

Alice 1873

Thomas 1875

Henry J 1877

Charles Joseph 1878

Agnes Maud 1880

Willie 1882

Ruby 1884

There are several Henry Williams, born 1870 to 1885,

You would need to purchase a marriage cert and birth cert or a cheaper way is a transcript of these for genealogy purposes they're fine. If you want to use them is a court of law, then you will need to buy the certificate.

Deaths

there was a Charles Pike died 1893 in Braidwood, reg no 3668, parents listed as Thomas and Susannah

there was Harriet Pike died Braidwood in 1887 reg no 6775 parents listed as George and Harriet.

You can look through the indexes as the nsw bmd on line.

Hope this helps

Ros

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NASH

Gender: Masculine Usage: English Pronounced: NASH [key]

From a surname which was derived from the Middle English phrase atten ash "at the ash tree". A famous bearer of the surname was the mathematician John Nash.